Vintage Ludwig Drums. Own A Piece Of Drumming History!
Vintage Ludwig Drums are big business these days and highly
collectible. Have you checked out eBay lately? Those 1960s
and older Ludwigs are wildly popular! Zillions were made
because of the explosion in sales of Ludwig drum sets in that decade.
Ringo, drummer for the Beatles can be given most of the credit
for this sudden huge demand. He requested a very obvious "Ludwig"
logo placed above the larger "Beatles" logo on his bass drum head.
Wow! What a free marketing jackpot for Ludwig! His drum kits also
included Premier and Ajax before switching to oyster black Ludwigs.
The Beatles - August 19, 1965
Photo Courtesy of the Houston Public Library
Other notable drummers that played Ludwig drums were Mitch Mitchell - Jimi Hendrix,
John Bonham (Led Zeppelin), Nick Mason (Pink Floyd), Ginger Baker (Cream), Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull),
Dino Danelli (Young Rascals), Alex Van Halen (Van Halen), Tre Cool (Green Day), Hal Blaine (1960s Studio Legend),
Joe Morello (Dave Brubeck),and Buddy Rich just to name a few.
Ludwig itself of course can also take credit for building drums
in good Ol' Chicago that sounded really great. Depending on condition,
head selection, and tuning Ludwig vintage drums can sound easily as
good as any modern high end drum. I can personally attest to that as
I've used a 60s Ludwig set many times in the past and it sounds
incredible live and in the studio.
Some drummers contend that Vintage Ludwig
drums from this era even sound better due to aged mahogany,
being the dominant wood type found in many of the 60s and
older sets. This is not to be confused with "Phillipine"
mahogany currently offered on cheap drum sets.
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black "Ringo" Set
A Closer Look
When considering vintage Ludwig drums, it's a good idea
to know what these drums are all about. To my knowledge
the late 60s and older shells had a Mahogany and possibly
poplar wood combination to form the plys. My particular
vintage set is three ply and fairly lightweight using
the bass drum as a weight gauge.
Reinforcing hoops placed on the inside top and bottom
edges help the drum shell stay round over time. Drum
heads also fit very nice and loose on all the vintage
Ludwig drums I've come across over the years. This can
really make tuning easier assuming the bearing edges
are even and the drum is in excellent shape.
Most Ludwig classic series vintage drum finishes were
plastic wraps. Besides the standard sparkles, and the
classic white and black marine pearls, the more unique
designs like Ringo's "oyster black pearl" were offered.
Natural wood maple finish was also offered and was one
of Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham's choices.
Ludwig Downbeat Set - Jazz Sizes - 1960s
The most common sizes measured by depth and diameter
are: 5x14 snare drum, 14x22 bass drum, 9x13 mounted
tom, 16x16 floor tom. The jazz sizes 14x20, 8x12, and 14x14
are much less common. There was even an 18" bass drum which
are really rare. Four piece drum sets were also
a lot more common than the current industry standard
five piece. Ludwig did however make sets with three
toms, usually an 8x12 with a double tom mount.
6.5" x 14" snares were also available.
My only complaint with these vintage Ludwig drums
is the single tom mount was not strong enough. The
double mount was probably better, but most kits
had the single mount. The floor tom legs and bass drum
spurs were fine. If you purchase a vintage Ludwig
kit, I suggest Safely storing the tom mount and using
a tall snare stand or drum rack.
Store the original mount safely and whatever you do -
do not drill or modify the shell in any way. That really
destroys the value of any vintage Ludwig drums -
or vintage drums in general for that matter.
Vintage Ludwig Snare Drums
If you are not interested in a complete set,
Ludwig snare drums are a safe bet. They have a
stellar reputation for versatility and great sound.
Legendary Supraphonic 400 - 1966
The Supraphonic 400 "seamless spun shell" is arguably
the most recorded snare ever! Truly an industry standard.
The famous "Black Beauty" is a brass shell version of the
Supraphonic with a black chrome finish. Some of the earlier
era Supra shells were also brass with the standard chrome finish.
Supraphonic 400 - P83 Strainer
Many drumming legends have used it including Ringo, John Bonham, Steve Gadd,
Joe Morello, Philly Jo Jones, Mitch Mitchell, Buddy Rich and countless others.
Popular concensus is that the famous "Acrolite" snare drum has the identical
Supraphonic 400 "seamless aluminum shell" but without the chrome finish.
Eight "bowtie" lugs are used as opposed to the ten "imperial" lugs on the Supra.
The Supra was offered in two sizes: 5x14 and 6.5x14. The Acrolites were 5x14.
One thing certain is that both drums are world class, and probably the last metal
snare drum you'll ever need!
Acrolite - 1960s
A nice benefit of the Acrolite is the finish does not
get pitted or flake off like most vintage Supraphonic
snare drums. They are also inexpensive on the used
market and eBay considering the superb sound and
quality that you get. Not to mention the "cool vintage"
factor and classic good looks.
Another nice added bonus in my opinion is the P-83
snare throw-off or strainer, which is fine quality
and very low profile. It gets the job done well and
is very compact, unlike some of the new heavy and
very bulky throw-offs.
The most prized vintage Ludwig snare is the
"Black Beauty", especially the engraved versions.
These brass shell snares have been made since
the 1920s, although not continuously.
In the modern era "reissue" production was begun
in the 70s and can be identified by a large rectangular
blue and olive badge around the air hole, as seen below.
Black Beauty - 1970s
They are currently being produced in several versions
included a hammered model which is an entirely new twist
on this old classic. These are certainly the Ludwig
collectibles of the future.
By studying eBay auction descriptions and photos for
a few weeks you can get a pretty quick education.
Be careful not to believe everything you read because not
all drummers are vintage Ludwig experts. Check out
"The Ludwig Book" by Rob Cook for a really good reference.
As a final note, before buying any vintage era Ludwig
drums always do your research. If purchasing on the
internet absolutely talk with the seller on the phone
and ask many questions regarding details on condition,
modifications, year made, serial numbers, fading
finish problems, bearing edges, etc. Get very clear
on what you are buying. Lastly, ask about return/refund
policies.
Also of much importance is how the seller plans to
ship safely. If using eBay check feedback for shipping
comments. Ebay sellers at times can be lousy packers
and this could mess up an otherwise smooth vintage
drum purchase. The two big shippers that we all know
and love don't always spread the love when it comes
to package handling.
If you want a great sounding, retro, and classy looking drums,
consider vintage Ludwig. If the set or snare is all original and
in fine shape it can only rise in value. How many expensive
new "boutique" drums can say that. Ringo still plays Ludwig,
and that's good enough for me!